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Hello Paul. How much money do you have left from the Mansun glory days?
¡°Well, put it this way: enough money not to be in Mansun.¡±
¾È³ç Æú. ¸Ç¼± Àü¼º±â¶§ ¹ø µ· Áß ¾ó¸¶³ª ³²¾Ò³ª¿ä?
"À½..ÀÌ·¸°Ô »ý°¢ÇغÁ: ¸Ç¼±¿¡¼ È°µ¿ÇÏÁö ¾Ê¾Æµµ µÉ Á¤µµ·Î ÃæºÐÈ÷"
How much would you charge to reform the band?
¡°I would never do that in a million years. We will never reform. It¡¯s over.¡±
¾ó¸¶¸¦ ÁÖ¸é ¹êµå¸¦ Àç°á¼ºÇÒ°Ç°¡¿ä?
"¹é¸¸³â µ¿¾ÈÀº Àý´ë·Î ÇÏÁö ¾ÊÀ»°Å¾ß. ¿ì¸®´Â Àý´ë·Î Àç°á¼ºÇÏÁö ¾ÊÀ» °Å´Ï±î. ¹êµå´Â ³¡³µ¾î."
Ooh, like Abba? They turned down a billion to reform.
¡°A billion? Well, I¡¯d do it for a billion. I¡¯d do anything for a billion. In fact, for that money I¡¯d do Mansun: The Musical. It¡¯d be music hall farce, with exploding drummers, ridiculous clothes and unnecessary haircut changes between scenes.¡±
¿ì..¾Æ¹Ùó·³? ±×µéÀº Àç°á¼ºÇϴµ¥ 10¾ïµµ °ÅÀýÇß¾î¿ä.
"10¾ï? ¹¹,10¾ï Áشٸé ÇҰžß. 10¾ïÀ̶ó¸é ¾î¶² °Íµµ ÇÒ·¡. »ç½Ç ±× µ·À̶ó¸é '¸Ç¼± ¹ÂÁöÄÃ(¾Æ¹Ù ¹ÂÁöÄÃó·³)'ÀÌ¶óµµ ÇҰžß. ±×°Ç ½Ã²ô·¯¿î µå·¯¸Óµé°ú ¹Ùº¸°°Àº º¹Àå ±×¸®°í ¾ÀÀÌ ¹Ù²ð¶§¸¶´Ù ¾µµ¥¾øÀÌ ¸Ó¸®¸ð¾çÀ» ¹Ù²Ù´Â ¹ÂÁ÷Ȧ ±¤´ë±ØÀÌ µÉ°Å¾ß."
Would there be a happy ending?
¡°There would be a horrific ending (laughs at length)
ÇØÇÇ ¿£µùÀ¸·Î ³¡³¯±î¿ä?
"¿£µùÀº ²ûÂïÇҰžß(¿À·§µ¿¾È ¿ôÀ½)"
How ridiculous were the majority of Mansun lyrics?
¡°A lot were just sheer stupidity, desperately trying to avoid words like mind, sky, telephone and so on. I still failed- there are some mind¡¯s and sky¡¯s knocking around. Generally though, the rest was a load of bullshit.¡±
´ë´Ù¼öÀÇ ¸Ç¼± ³ë·¡ °¡»çµéÀº ¾ó¸¶³ª ¹Ùº¸°°¾Ò¾î¿ä?
"¸¹Àº °¡»çµéÀº Á¤¸» ¹Ùº¸°°¾Ò¾î. mind, sky, telephone°ú °°Àº ´Ü¾îµéÀ» Àý´ë·Î »ç¿ëÇÏÁö ¾ÊÀ¸·Á ÇÏ¸é¼ - ±×Ä¡¸¸ ½ÇÆÐÇßÁö. °¡»ç Áß mind³ª sky°°Àº ´Ü¾îµéÀÌ ¸î ±ºµ¥ ÀÖ¾î. ±×·³¿¡µµ ºÒ±¸ÇÏ°í º¸Åë, ³ª¸ÓÁö´Â ¾ûÅ͸®´ë¸¶¿ÕÀ̾ú¾î."
The internet describes you as ¡°Mansun¡¯s answer to Richey and Kurt¡±. When were you closest to killing yourself?
¡°Probably when I listened to the third Mansun album. But then I didn¡¯t listen to it again, and things got better.¡±
ÀÎÅͳݿ¡¼± ´ç½ÅÀ» "Richey¿Í Kurt¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ¸Ç¼±ÀÇ ÀÀ´ä"À¸·Î ¹¦»çÇÏ´õ¶ó±¸¿ä. ¾ðÁ¦ °¡Àå Á×°í ½Í¾úÁÒ?
"¾Æ¸¶ 3¹ø° ¸Ç¼± ¾Ù¹üÀ» µé¾úÀ»¶§. ±×Ä¡¸¸ ±× ÀÌÈÄ·Î ±×°É ´Ù½Ã µèÁö ¾Ê¾Æ¼ ±¦Âú¾ÆÁ³¾î."
How bad was it? I only remember listening to it once.
¡°You gave it a whole listen? Fu-ckin¡¯ hell! Ha ha! Well done! The Mansun album story is this: first album, quite pleased with it, thumbs up. Second one, can¡¯t remember what the fuck was going on but the cover was shit. Third one, wrote the songs, smiled and went along with it.¡±
±× ¾Ù¹üÀÌ ¾ó¸¶³ª ¾ÈÁÁ¾Ò³ª¿ä? ³ ´ÜÁö ±×°É Çѹø µéÀº ±â¾ï¹Û¿¡ ¾ø³×¿ä.
"±×°É ÀüºÎ µé¾ú´Ù°í? Fu-ckin¡¯ hell! Ha ha! Well done! ¸Ç¼± ¾Ù¹ü À̾߱â´Â À̰žß: ù¹ø° ¾Ù¹üÀº Á¤¸» ±â»¼°í ÀÎÁ¤ÇØ. µÎ¹ø° °Å´Â ¹«½¼ ÀÏÀÌ ÀϾ°í ÀÖ¾ú´ÂÁö ¸ð¸£°ÚÁö¸¸ ¾Ù¹üÄ¿¹ö´Â ¶ËÀ̾ú¾î. ¼¼¹ø° ¾Ù¹üÀº, °îµéÀ» ½è°í ¿ôÀº´ÙÀ½¿¡ ¹Þ¾Æµé¿´¾î."
Did you know it was shit at the time?
¡°Well, put it this way, we didn¡¯t do any interviews or touring on that album. So er¡¦¡±
±× ´ç½Ã¿¡ ±×°Ô shitÀ̾ú´Ù´Â °É ¾Ë°í ÀÖ¾ú³ª¿ä?
"À½, ÀÌ·¸°Ô ¸»ÇصÎÁö, ¿ì¸®´Â ±× ¾Ù¹ü¿¡ ´ëÇؼ´Â ¾î¶² ÀÎÅͺ䳪 Åõ¾îµµ ÇÏÁö ¾Ê¾Ò¾î. ±×·¡¼ ¾î..."
You were embrassed?
¡°Yes, that¡¯s fairly true actually.¡±
±×·¡¼ ´çȤ½º·¯¿ü´Ù±¸¿ä?
"ÀÀ, ½ÇÁ¦·Î ²Ï ±×·¨¾î"
And you¡¯re now issuing the previously unreleased fourth album sessions, due to a petition from fans. Are they any good?
¡°No idea. I really don¡¯t know and I don¡¯t care.¡±
±×¸®°í ´ç½ÅÀº Áö±Ý ÀÌÀü¿¡ ³ª¿ÀÁö ¾Ê¾Ò´ø ³×¹ø° ¾Ù¹üÀ» ÆÒµéÀÇ ¿äû¶§¹®¿¡ ¹ß¸ÅÇÏ·Á°í ÇÏÀݾƿä. ±× ³ë·¡µé ÁÁ³ª¿ä?
"¸ð¸£°Ú¾î. ÁøÂ¥ Àß ¸ð¸£°Ú°í »ó°üµµ ¾ÈÇØ."
Will you ever go down the route of Renaissance-era patronage, and write songs for fans, for cash?
¡°That¡¯s taking it to the extreme a bit but, er¡¦well, it depends how desperate I get.¡±
¸£³×»ó½º ½Ã´ëÀÇ patronage ³ë¼±À» µû¶ó¼ ´ç½ÅÀÌ µ·À» ¹Þ°í Æҵ鿡°Ô ³ë·¡¸¦ ½áÁÖ´Â ÀÏÀÌ ÀϾ±î¿ä?
"Á» ±Ø´ÜÀûÀ̱äÇѵ¥, ¾î..±Û½ê, ±×°Ç ³»°¡ ¾ó¸¶³ª Àý¸ÁÀûÀ̳Ŀ¡ ´Þ·ÈÁö."
What would you do me for 50 quid?
¡°Fifty quid? Fucking hell- that¡¯s more than I got for most of the songs I wrote for Mansun! For 50 quid I¡¯d spend a week doing it, and I¡¯d write some big Marillion-esque epic for you.¡±
50ÆÄ¿îµå ÁÖ¸é ¹«¾ùÀ» ÇØÁÙ°ÅÁÒ?
"50ÆÄ¿îµå? Fucking hell- ±×°Ç ¸Ç¼±À» À§ÇØ ÀÛ°îÇÑ ¾î¶² ´ñ°¡º¸´Ù ¸¹¾Æ! 50ÆÄ¿îµå¶ó¸é ÀÏÁÖÀÏ¿¡ °ÉÃļ MarillionƽÇÑ ´ë°îÀ» ½áÁÙ ¼öµµ ÀÖ¾î¿ä."
I have the NME Mansun picture archive on my desk and, in my hand, a shot in which you appear to be dressed as David Brent¡¦
¡°The David Brent one! I am the fucking spitting image of David Brent, aren¡¯t I? Someone once phoned me up and told me that- I was like, ¡®Fucking hell, I know I¡¯ve put on half a stone, but steady on¡¯. That¡¯s the photo you should use for this.¡±
³» Ã¥»ó À§¿¡´Â NME ¸Ç¼±»çÁø ¸ðÀ½ÁýÀÌ ÀÖ¾î¿ä. ±×¸®°í ³» ¼Õ¿¡´Â ´ç½ÅÀÌ David Brent°°Àº ¿ÊÀ» ÀÔ°í ÂïÀº »çÁøÀÌ ÀÖ¾î¿ä...
"¾Æ ±×°Å! ³ David Brent¶û Á¸³ª »©´à¾Ò¾î, ¾È±×·¡? ´©°¡ ¾ðÁ¦ ³ªÇÑÅ× ÀüÈÇؼ ±×·¸°Ô ¸»Çß¾î- ³ª´Â ÀÌ·¨¾î'½Ã¹ß, ³ªµµ ³» ¸ö¹«°Ô°¡ 7ÆÄ¿îµå ´Ã¾ú´Ù´Â °É ¾È´Ù°í. ÇÏÁö¸¸ ħÂøÇØ' ±× »çÁøÀÌ ¹Ù·Î ´ç½ÅÀÌ ÀÌ ÀÎÅͺ並 À§ÇØ »ç¿ëÇØ¾ß ÇÒ »çÁøÀÌÁö."
I¡¯ve also found one of you tied to a cross, with the rest of Mansun jeering at you.
¡°That sounds like being on tour.¡±
³ ¶ÇÇÑ ´ç½ÅÀÌ ½ÊÀÚ°¡¿¡ ¸Å´Þ·Á ÀÖ°í ³ª¸ÓÁö ¸â¹öµéÀº ´ç½ÅÀ» º¸°í Á¶·ÕÇÏ°í ÀÖ´Â »çÁøÀ» ã¾Ò¾î¿ä.
"Åõ¾î ¶§Àϰžß."
There¡¯s another one here too¡¦
¡°Not the hat one.¡±
You¡¯re jumping around in a pair of tartan trousers.
¡°Christ. We dressed up as the Sex Pistols for you lot once, too, when we were really desperate.¡±
¿©±â ¶Ç ´Ù¸¥ °Íµµ Àֳ׿ä...
"¸ðÀÚ ¾´ »çÁøÀº ¾Æ´Ï°ÚÁö."
´ç½ÅÀÌ Ã¼Å©¹«´Ì ¹ÙÁö¸¦ ÀÔ°í ¶Ù¾îµ¹¾Æ´Ù´Ï´Â »çÁøÀ̳׿ä.
"¸¿¼Ò»ç. ¿ì¸®°¡ Á¤¸»·Î ÇÊ»çÀûÀ̾úÀ» ´ç½Å°°Àº ³ðµéÀ» À§ÇØ Sex Pistolsó·³ ÀԱ⵵ Çß¾î."
You once retouched photos for a living. How shall we retouch you for 2004? Shall we remove the beard?
¡°No, keep the beard. The beard should stay.¡±
´ç½ÅÀº »çÁøÀ» ¸®ÅÍĪÇÏ´Â ÀÏÀ» ÇÑ ÀûÀÌ ÀÖÁÒ. 2004³â¿¡´Â ´ç½ÅÀ» ¾î¶»°Ô ¸®ÅÍĪÇØÁÙ±î¿ä? Åμö¿° ¾ø¾Ö ÁÙ±î¿ä?
"¾Æ´Ï, Åμö¿°Àº ³²°ÜµÖ. Åμö¿°Àº ÀÖ¾î¾ß µÇ."
Can we draw some glasses on you?
¡°Yes! Give me some sunglasses or something.¡±
´ç½Å À§¿¡ ¾È°æÀ» ±×·Áµµ µÇ³ª¿ä?
"ÁÁ¾Æ! ¼±±Û¶ó½º °°Àº°É·Î."
You once noted that ¡°NME hate us, and we hate them¡±. So do you still hate us?
¡°Did I say that? That was the exuberance of youth. I buy the NME every week! But don¡¯t put that in. I always loved NME, and then of course I was in the band and it was Mansun album review: ¡°Shit sandwich¡±. Although, to be honest, I would have preferred that to the review we actually got for the third Mansun album.¡±
´ç½ÅÀº ¾ðÁ¨°¡ "NME´Â ¿ì¸®¸¦ ½È¾îÇÑ´Ù, ±×¸®°í ¿ì¸®µµ ±×µéÀ» ½È¾îÇÑ´Ù"¶ó°í Çß¾úÁÒ. ¾ÆÁ÷µµ ¿ì¸®¸¦ ½È¾îÇϳª¿ä?
"³»°¡ ±×·¨´Ù°í? ±×°Ç ÀþÀº½ÃÀýÀÇ Ä¡±â¾ß. ³ª´Â ¸Å ÁÖ NME¸¦ »ê´Ù°í! ±Ùµ¥ ±×°Ç Áý¾î³ÖÁö¸¶. ³ª´Â Ç×»ó NME¸¦ ÁÁ¾ÆÇß¾î, ¹°·Ð ³ª´Â ¹êµå¿¡ ¼ÓÇß°í ±×°Ç ¸Ç¼± ¾Ù¹üÀ» "shit sandwich"¶ó°í ¸®ºäÇß¾î. ¹¹ ¼ÖÁ÷È÷ ¸»ÇÏÀÚ¸é, ³ª´Â ±×°É ¿ì¸®°¡ ¸Ç¼± ¼¼¹ø° ¾Ù¹ü¿¡ ´ëÇØ ¹ÞÀº ¸®ºäº¸´Ù ´õ ³´´Ù°í »ý°¢ÇØ."
As you say, it was rubbish.
¡°Very, very true. I¡¯m trying to be diplomatic. Put it this way: the demos were good.¡±
´ç½Å ¸»´ë·Î, ±×°Ç ¾î¸®¼®Àº ÁþÀ̾úÁÒ.
"ÁøÂ¥, ÁøÂ¥ ±×·¡. ³ª´Â ¿Ü±³ÀûÀÌÁö ¾ÊÀ¸·Á°í ³ë·ÂÇØ. ±×°Ç ÀÌ·¸°Ô »ý°¢ÇغÁ: µ¥¸ð°îµéÀº ÁÁ¾Ò´Ù°í."
That¡¯s such a classic excuse for having made a shit album.
¡°It¡¯s weak, isn¡¯t it? I apologise right now. The demos were just as bad.¡±
±×°Ç º°·ÎÀÎ ¾Ù¹üÀ» ¸¸µç °Í¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ÀüÇüÀûÀÎ º¯¸íÀÌÀݾƿä.
"Á» ¾àÇß¾î, ¾È ±×·¡? Áö±Ý ¹Ù·Î »ç°úÇÒ°Ô. µ¥¸ð°îµéµµ ³ª»¦¾î."
So Mansun¡¯s lyrics were nonsense, the third album was unlistenable, you don¡¯t care about the album you¡¯re plugging right now- what¡¯s next for you?
¡°It¡¯s the inevitable solo album! You could see that a mile off, couldn¡¯t you? It¡¯s just demos at the moment so, of course, it¡¯s fucking brilliant. It sounds like Mansun, but more electronic.¡±
Á¾ÇÕÇØ º¸ÀÚ¸é, ¸Ç¼±ÀÇ °¡»çµéÀº ³Í¼¾½º¿´°í, ¼¼¹ø° ¾Ù¹üÀº µéÀ» ¼ö ¾øÀ» Áö°æÀ̾ú°í, ´ç½ÅÀº À̹ø¿¡ ³ª¿À´Â ¾Ù¹ü¿¡ ´ëÇؼ´Â ½Å°æ¾²Áö ¾Ê´Â´Ù´Â °Å³×¿ä - ´ÙÀ½Àº ¹º°¡¿ä?
"±×°Ç ´ç¿¬È÷ ¼Ö·Î¾Ù¹üÁö! ´ç½Åµµ ±×°Ç ¾ÆÁ÷ ¸Ö¾ú´Ù´Â °É ¾Ë ¼ö ÀÖÁö, ¾È ±×·¡? ±×°ÍµéÀº Áö±ÝÀº ±×³É µ¥¸ð°îµéÀ̱⠶§¹®¿¡, ¹°·Ð, Á¸³ª ÁÁÁö. ¸Ç¼± °°Áö¸¸, ´õ ÀÏ·ºÆ®·Î´ÐÇØ."
FYI
Paul has never heard the second Babylon Zoo album.
It was called ¡®King Kong Groover¡¯, you know.
Paul will be ¡°hiring a bar and getting absolutely twatted¡± for his 33rd birthday.
ÆúÀº µÎ¹ø° Babylon ZooÀ» µéÀº ÀûÀÌ ¾ø´Ù.
´ç½Åµµ ¾Ë´Ù½ÃÇÇ ±× ¾Ù¹ü À̸§Àº 'King Kong Groover'ÀÌ´Ù.
ÆúÀº ±×ÀÇ 33¹ø° »ýÀÏ¿¡ "bar¸¦ Çϳª ºô·Á¼ ¿ÏÀüÈ÷ twattted"µÉ °ÍÀÌ´Ù.
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